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Establish a Student Growth Performance Measure (i.e. – MAP Assessment)
#Response DateAdditional comments on goal
1.2/5/2008 1:56:00 AMI need more information on this
2.2/5/2008 3:48:00 AMI don't know much about this. I do know I am already spending too much time assessing at the expence of teaching.
3.2/5/2008 2:08:00 PMAgain - too much right now.
4.2/5/2008 2:29:00 PMI personally feel that the MAP assessment would be an excellent tool to determine what skills our students have mastered, as well as measure their progress. Appropriate instructional levels will be better determined, thus providing better placement for students.
5.2/5/2008 3:30:00 PMIt would be great to have the data of how our students grow from year to year. I am excited for this!
6.2/5/2008 3:36:00 PMHow much time does this assessment take out of the day? How realistic is it to give more tests? Are special education students going to be included? WKCE sends the whole school into a 4 week respite as far as special education and reading services, since those teachers are helping provide accommodations to the students that need it. Our students do not gain knowledge by taking more tests.
7.2/5/2008 4:08:00 PMWill this require additional testing?
8.2/5/2008 4:58:00 PMDo we really need more assessment?? With the elementary report card, we are assessing kids more than ever before. We lose hours of instructional time giving assessments, and we lose the support of our Speech and Language, reading and ELL teachers during standardized testing times. We have to consider whether or not the value of what we learn through these assessments is worth the instructional time we lose in giving them.
9.2/5/2008 6:21:00 PMI am woried about extra testing, NCLB issues, taking up too much instructional time.
10.2/5/2008 6:53:00 PMWe have many good assessments in place. We need to be sure to use them effectively. Instructional time should be the priority.
11.2/5/2008 7:02:00 PMNot familiar with MAP
12.2/5/2008 7:20:00 PMtime
13.2/5/2008 7:53:00 PMThis sounds like a huge undertaking that we might not be ready for due to all the other assessment data we are still getting used to collecting.
14.2/5/2008 9:28:00 PMMy questions is WHY? I already assess my students every quarter in every subject area, including now social studies and eventually science. We give unit/chapter tests, as well as district test. We make observations, conference with students, complete projects...What more could this tell us? What about the students who would struggle with this type of assessment? Do we want a computer program telling us what our kids know? I am not sure that is the direction I want to see us heading...I am not sure that is what I want to put my students through!
15.2/5/2008 9:58:00 PMI am not sure more testing is the answer.... I think more student time... with smaller groups (with class teacher) may help... quality, not quantity.
16.2/5/2008 11:03:00 PMI need to know more about this type of assessment.
17.2/6/2008 3:05:00 AMNice to track progress. Let's make sure it's not just test-based. There's more to a child that how he/she performs on tests!
18.2/6/2008 3:07:00 AMThe assessment procedure seems time consuming in an already full day. I'd be interested in learning more about the assessment's framework.
19.2/7/2008 9:39:00 PMHow would students who are ELL or special ed. take this test?
20.2/11/2008 6:16:00 PMMore paperwork? We are already doing lots with report cards, reading, math, writing folders. I would need more information in this before I would be interested in using it.
21.2/12/2008 10:07:00 PMdon't take time from instruction to test
22.3/4/2008 3:01:00 AMNeed more information on this.
23.3/4/2008 3:01:00 PMOnly if it has a impact on instruction.
24.3/5/2008 1:23:00 PMI feel I give enough assessments and know my learners very well. I know what they need. I just don't have the time to deliver the instruction that they need because I'm so busy giving assessments!!!!
25.3/5/2008 7:40:00 PMOn the last WKCE results we ended up with a ton of kids in &quot;Advanced&quot; in reading. We were told this was in large part due to the test being renormed. What benchmarks do the MAP people use and how many times have they renormed?
26.3/5/2008 8:57:00 PMAs a parent, I don't believe a computer can assess my child in 20 minutes or less. As a teacher, I know my observations can tell me more than a computerized test. I think we see that already with the SRI.
27.3/6/2008 4:52:00 PMWhat? More testing?
28.3/6/2008 5:00:00 PMI don't know enough about this.
29.3/6/2008 5:09:00 PMKids don't always test well. What happens to the children that know the skill in class, but fail the part on the test?
30.3/6/2008 6:38:00 PMWho will this help?
31.3/6/2008 6:40:00 PMI would like to know how it is given and what we would do with the data. Who gives it? who corrects it?
32.3/6/2008 7:26:00 PMNeed to have more information and understand this system before I can give it any valuable input.
33.3/6/2008 8:05:00 PMNeed to know more about it before I would comment.
34.3/6/2008 8:33:00 PMSo often, a student makes a year's progress in your classroom, but you do not get credit for this because the child is still &quot;below level.&quot;
35.3/6/2008 10:37:00 PMWhen are we going to find the time to do this and yet keep up with the pacing that has aready been established for Math, for instance.. There is absolutely NO TIME built in to reteach.
36.3/9/2008 10:45:00 PMThis can help show AYP for all students
37.3/17/2008 9:42:00 PMThis is a fine idea, but it needs to be in lue of other assessments, not in addition to other assessments. We spend too much time assessing and not enough time teaching.
38.3/18/2008 2:10:00 PMAs I've said many times here step back and see what is working and not working eliminate poorly run program and plans, and then think about what you should or should not do next. Don't waste the precious resources you have (people).
39.3/18/2008 2:48:00 PMCost???? These programs are not cheep. It would be nice to have the daa but only if we are going to use it and have time to digest it. Otherwise I am not a fan of collecting data jsut to collect data.
40.3/18/2008 4:17:00 PMSounds like a program designed for administartors to use to create reports for the school board. Maybe I misunderstood?
41.3/19/2008 1:22:00 PMMore time testing or would this replace something already in place?
42.3/19/2008 5:41:00 PMAgain, we need to ease off on this for a while and learn to work with the new things we've implemented. There's too much too fast and none of it is getting done as well as it should. We are being turned into &quot;jacks of all trades, but masters of none.&quot; This is especially difficult for those of us who teach in two different course areas.
43.3/20/2008 3:18:00 AMDon't know anything about it,its usefulness, or cost.
44.4/7/2008 9:56:00 PMMoney to support it? Loss of instruction? Why Map over others?
45.4/8/2008 12:31:00 AMNot sure if there is time for more testing and/or how teacher friendly the data really is to use in my classroom. Sounds like it will be more of an administrative tool.
46.4/8/2008 1:03:00 PMalways nice to have.
47.4/8/2008 12:26:00 PMI suppose if we have to live with the NCLB law, this would be very important.
48.4/8/2008 3:02:00 PMI don't know what this is.
49.4/8/2008 4:59:00 PMWill this be in place of surrent testing or in addition to? If in place of, that would be OK, if in addition to, that would NOT be OK.
50.4/8/2008 8:52:00 PMThis is an administrative goal. It is an attempt to quantify or document what teachers could give you subjectively with comments or parent/teacher conferences.
51.4/8/2008 7:58:00 PMOver the years I have yet to see an assessment tool that can offer this over a period of years. Those that develope the assessments are continually changing the norms, methods of expressing the results and the standards that they are using to judge any of this.
52.4/10/2008 1:16:00 PMMAP Assessment needs to be in this district tomorrow. Having a wife who is in a district with MAP Assessment, she really admires what the program is capable of doing. As a result, she sees the individualized needs of each student she works with, and she can begin to work on RTI strategies right away. Kids are constantly on a watch list as they show areas of weakness, and it seems like fewer kids slip through the academic cracks. However, this CANNOT be a program that is purchased and housed in an area of the school where nobody is forced to interact with it and it is mandated by somebody else. This has to be built into the vocabulary/language and practice of teachers to make it effective. My wife works in two schools in her district. One building uses MAP Assessment effectively because teachers understand it, believe in it, and interact with it. In the other building, MAP is just another initiative that nobody really utilizes to tailor instruction. MAP is a tool that everyone needs to learn how to use and how to analyze the results.
53.4/10/2008 6:13:00 PMReally, no clue what this is.